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Can you code in C/Java?. Are you an experienced network &&/|| gui coder?. Can you code for Mac / Linux / Risc-OS / Other OS's. Are you reliable and can stick with a job until it's finished?
Because I'm looking for reliable and experienced coders to port Streamer to other platforms. Email me at iain{at}chaotica.u-net.com or reply here if you are interested.

Cheers, Iain

or development@streamerp2p.com

Has anything happened about this? It would be good to have a linux version, but I'm stuck using it through wine atm.

From the date on these posts, it's been about a year. Any updates on a Linux version?

Nothing yet that I know of. Iain gets all of the development mail directly and if he's gotten something I haven't heard or they turned out not to be serious about the inquiry.

Not many enquiries, and I have not remembered to follow up some of them. I'll probably end up doing it myself I guess.

i may be able to help with a linux port, but im not too great with linux, but if u dont have any kind of a major time restriction, i may be able to get my brother whose a comp-sci/physics major to help.

if they need translate english to the Spanish

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Dear Iain:

My name is Phearith Chau, from a company called Advance Theory, Inc. I am experienced and very interested in porting Streamer to the MAC. In exchanged and with your permission, I would like to distribute Streamer as a bundle package with my free Interenet Radio for local Christian radio stations. Is that okay? I and my team could write a similiar program but we have enjoyed using your application and think that it would be better to use your program and shared it our users.

Sincerely,
Phearith Chau

I'm curious how things are going with the attempts to develop a Linux version of Streamer.

Were developers found?

Is current source code available, that matches the current Windows binary?

I am acquainted with a few people at some nonprofit radio stations in the area, and they are looking for a free or low-cost alternative to unicast streaming, of which there never seems to be enough bandwidth....

you can run streamer for broadcasting, quite happily under Wine on linux. You dont need a native version to broadcast. I was doing it that way for over a year.......

At home i run streamer under wine too and it works great. For the clients you are right. They can run streamer using wine or better a native linux client in future.

I think what's realy needed is a linux version running as daemon without a gui. Like the icecast or shoutcast server with a xml config file and maybe a browser gui.

I can't run streamer under wine on my server cause there is no X Window System installed or a sound daemon / soundcard. It's a 19" box i can access using ssh.

Most professional stations already have a streaming server (or more) with icecast / shoutcast and it would be nice to run a additional streamerp2p daemon too. Normaly thats 19" servers, rack mounted, without a keyboard, monitor, soundcard.

Or the core is the same for the server and the client but the clients can access the core with a optional nice gui "on top".

It's difficult to include streamerp2p seamless. You need a windows server (and license, sometimes a complete new server if you normaly work with unix servers) or a ("unstable") wine emulation.
Both options are expensive. The first cause you have to buy expensive new stuff the second cause you have to pay a admin to restart the crashed wine emulation day and night (worst case). There is no syslog or something similar to monitor the streamer process and restart it. It's not reliable enough. You can't run streamer as a real windows service too.

Private users don't need that but professionals do.

Nice. I'll try that. It worked! I'm impressed that it didn't need any additional DLL settings (other than the few I had already enabled for other Windows apps). I like how Streamer is "lean and mean", and doesn't use a lot of the Microsoft bloat.

Some gotchas:

1) Streamer's built-in player stuttered so much as to be unlistenable, and the lag shot up to 70% or so, on Streamer's readout at the bottom of the screen. It's not Streamer's fault: WINE spit out lots of messages about "fixme:dsound" so it's obvious WINE has some work to do.

The workaround is:

A) Tell Streamer to turn off its built-in audio player. Go to Config/Audio and check the two boxes for "Use external player". You must also *uncheck* the boxes "Auto start external player" and "Restart if it stops"! The reason is that I don't have any browsers or audio players installed at all in WINE, so there's nothing for Streamer to autostart, and it kind of chokes and gets caught in a loop. Not to mention more WINE error messages, but we're used to that by now.

B) To get your audio back, start mplayer (or whatever your favorite Linux player is), manually, with this URL:

mplayer 'http://localhost:8000/streamer.mp3'

(You might have to bump up 8000 as needed, as each time Streamer restarts, WINE isn't too good at clearing the ports so it starts to drift upwards to 8001, 8002, 8003, and so on. Also, change streamer.mp3 to streamer.ogg for Ogg streams.)

Now, audio plays well.

2) You can't click on "streamerp2p://" URL's in your browser.

The workaround is to start Streamer with the URL's on the command line. Go to whereever you installed Streamer.exe in WINE, and start a command line:

wine ./Streamer.exe 'streamerp2p://s%3d7daa64acb9f4dff0%7cn%3dOLDIESRADIO%201520%20WQMA%2018k%20mp3PRO%20Dialup%20Marks%2c%20MS%7cb%3d17%7ct%3dmp3%7c'

You get this big ugly URL by right-clicking in Firefox and copying the link from whatever radio station you want to play (in my example, it's the only Streamer station that plays Dr. Demento). I like how Firefox converts the weird characters to percent-encoding, so I don't have to worry about spaces and such messing up the URL!

When you get a station found in Streamer, don't forget to bookmark it, so then in the future, you can pick it from a list instead of needing to do this cut-and-paste trick.

3) The final glitch is Streamer's stats on the right column: it says "no internet connection", even though my Internet connection is working just fine. The displayed IP also keeps flashing between my true IP and 0.0.0.0, rather quickly. The "Lan:" IP remains at 0.0.0.0, but that's because I'm not behind a firewall (Linux *is* my firewall!)

The bandwidth test completed successfully, giving me 128/128 which is enough for audio, so that's fine.

After about a hour, a peer finally connected to me. So, I know that the P2P feature is working. I hope that this glitch is just a display glitch, and that Streamer still lets me share to as many peers as I have rated bandwidth for, even though it thinks I have "no internet connection".

So, I'm impressed that it works fairly nicely under WINE!

Josh

Yes, that would be the ideal. Something that runs strictly from the command line, so it can be scripted and such, and consume as little resources as possible. There's no need for a graphics display or even a sound card (to test the sound quality, you simply connect with a client).

This might also be useful as a Windows service



That's also a common way of designing many Linux applications. All the gruntwork is done by a command-line tool, but there's an optional friendly GUI on top of it. So, you get the best of both worlds that way.



Well said. I've been trying to make that point for a long time, but you said it better than I could. For these reasons, we really need a Streamer client for Linux

Josh